Monday, April 21, 2008

Democracy? Nein, danke!

Think the old Pink Floyd “we don’t need no education” line only replace it with democracy and that’s what you’ve got here in Germany, folks. If you trust these latest survey results, that is (which I don’t, nicht wirklich). Hey, that was from The Wall, wasn’t it? How ironic.



Anyway, according to the Leipzig Institute for Market Research, only 60 percent of Germans surveyed have confidence in the democratic system as it is practiced today in the Federal Republic of Germany (in the eastern part of Germany it’s less than half at 44 percent). But when it comes to authority, the survey says that 85 percent of Germans trust authority figures, like their police.

Don’t get me wrong, I think trusting the police is a good thing. But how does all of this fit together? On the one hand you’ve got this perpetual gebetsmühlenartig (repeated like a mantra) “Nie wieder Krieg!” and “Nie wieder Faschismus!” and down-with-authority chant going on 24/7, while on the other hand the same people seem perfectly prepared to toss their tried and true democratic system out the window (the only system that has ever really worked here, by the way) and maybe even make themselves comfortable for a while in the next police state experiment while they’re at it. Or what else does this mean?

And these are the same Germans who want a permanent seat in the UN, too? Like I said, none of this fits together. But how do those other old lyrics go again? "You don’t miss your water until your well runs dry."

Democracy schmockracy!

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Posted by clarsonimus at 17:09:33 | Permanent Link | Comments (9) |
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1 - only 60 percent of Germans surveyed have confidence in the democratic system as it is practiced today

This survey, done every year and released on a 'slow news day' always reveals exactly the same thing. And it's always reported in exactly the same way?

How about the interpretation that many Germans actually don't find the democratic system as it is practiced today very democratic? And might want more democracy, not less?

The results in the east are also a no-brainer - as this 'democracy' has brought long-term - deliberately planned - unemployment for most of an entire generation along with all the other side-effects that go along with it (depression, poverty, earlier deaths, destrution of public services...) it's no wonder that even less in the east support this democracy, the one they went on the streets to get for themselves. Isn't it?

The headlines about so-many being 'anti-democratic' when the question concerned in the survey asks no such thing says it all. They're little different from the identical headlines in Newes Deutschland of years gone by expressing sycophantic praise in the then current system. (Comment this)

Written by: d.z. bodenberg at 2008/04/22 - 07:21:20
2 - Considering what German politics has to offer, 60% confidence is actually pretty high!

There are brilliant Germans in all walks of life, who might really be good at running the country for a go or two, but if they haven't committed themselves to a career in one of the parties, and worked up from sign hanger to delegate to speaker, or whatever, there is no way for them to get in. And if you move up that way, a tip of the iceberg of entire system that really you should be changing, there is no way it is going to happen. So Germany stagnates. People have no real input. Germany remains a second rate, mediocre place. (no offense, this is no reflection on the people). (Comment this)

Written by: Indeterminacy at 2008/04/22 - 07:56:06
3 - Indeterminacy - Comparing German Democracy to the American (head of the CIA) George Bush1 Presidency and then George Bush 2 with two terms, (with one Republican dominated Supreme Court deciding the one of the elections) that is 12 years of Bush. I suggest your comparison of American Democracy with today's Germany is like me saying "A Bird in the Hand is worth Two in the Bush.) Shame on you Indeterminancy. Like the American people (the 25% that bother to vote) have any input in so-called American Democracy.) Its all an Oligarchy BUBBA! (Comment this)

Written by: EuroYank at 2008/04/22 - 09:50:05
4 - When did I make THAT comparison? I think we are standing in two different ballparks. (Comment this)

Written by: Indeterminacy at 2008/04/22 - 14:26:55
5 - Indeterminacy, don't argue with me! Its not so much what you said, its what you were THINKING that I addressed. (Comment this)

Written by: EuroYank at 2008/04/22 - 15:15:23
6 - Maybe ABC would invite us two to a debate - that's about the level they're sinking to. (Comment this)

Written by: Indeterminacy at 2008/04/22 - 16:32:23
7 - We may be an authoritarian people - we may be able to diggest the kind of party rule we have that leaves no say for the people. We may be able to cope with that - but only if they become honest and stop pretending that it is the peope they worry about.

Because this is one thing most cannot diggest here - dishonest leaders. (Comment this)

Written by: Zyme at 2008/04/22 - 16:59:09
8 - Zyme and everybody, I really believe everybody in a free society gets the government they deserve = the one they vote for. Why isn't the government here (or anywhere else) better than it is? Because it doesn't have to be. I really think it's that simple. And in this particular case, let's face it: Germans LOVE to gripe, no matter what. I don't take these results seriously, to be honest. (Comment this)

Written by: clarsonimus at 2008/04/22 - 17:21:52 in reply to: 7
9 - Oh well... same old news... it's not that they don't like democracy it's just that we Germans need something to complain about. If we can't complain about something we ain't happy ;) (Comment this)

Written by: Nelly at 2008/04/23 - 07:40:20
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